What exactly is the motive for the killing? If there is no motive, then what drove these two police special action force personnel to commit such a heinous crime?'
I am still confused about the case. My question is - what exactly is their motive for the killing? If there is no motive, then what drove them to commit such a heinous crime?
If the claims that they were instructed by some one are true, then probably that culprit behind should be brought to justice.
This case is NOT closed unless the ones who instructed them are also put on trail.
For these two men, if they have admitted to the murder then justice is done in this instance.
But, as do many Malaysians, we all have a nagging feeling on what was their motivation to commit this crime?
You don't just blow up someone whom you had no prior encounter with unless there is a reason so all angles point to the theory that they were 'carrying out someone's instructions'.
The bizarre manner the investigations and the trial was conducted probably cemented this public opinion.
And now with this sentenced being meted out, it would be a miracle if we will ever get behind the truth.
On second thought, justice is hardly done here. The real 'criminals' have yet to be brought to justice.
If, hypothetically, solid evidence had indeed been adduced in court that pointed to both Azilah and Sirul as the murderers, I still cannot help feeling sorry for them as:
1. Their motives are unknown as it has been established that they did not know the victim personally;
2. Evidence such as the slippers in the Suzuki Vitara and personal belongings confiscated from the apartment seem to be too convenient;
3. Most importantly, the person with the most solid motif, Razak Baginda, was found not guilty and this was not appealed by the prosecution when it had been established that there is an association between him and the two accused;
4. And that until now, the motives of Balasubramaniam's statutory declarations have not been established.
I really feel sorry for both of them and especially their families and that their ordeal is prolonged.
I would have accepted a ‘not guilty' verdict for the simple reason that based on various testimonies, the police had indeed bungled in their investigations.
Somebody should really help this two poor souls.
DD: Based on the decision of the court to hang them (Sirul and Azilah), there are many doubts still unanswered up to now.
How are they (Sirul and Azilah) linked to Altantuya when they did not know her. What was on Altantuya's antagonism towards them?
How did Razak Baginda know these two policemen? Who instructed them to act? Are they the only actors and if yes who is the director of this ‘movie'?
Why did they cover their face all the time in court ? Sounds fishy. Let God punish those who were really involved in this murder on His judgment day.
In the history of crime, only serial killers and mad men committed motiveless crimes.
Malaysia is making criminology history by sending two men, both non-serial killers and both fully sane, to the gallows for a completely motiveless crime they are said to have committed.
International expert criminologists had better rush to Malaysia to find out what fantastic new discoveries we've made in criminology to come to this ‘superb' conclusion.
Are we far ahead in this science from the rest of the world? Or are we experts in ‘scapegoat-ology'?
Starting as PM by stretching credulity is hardly a promising way to get going, Mr PM, sir.
I have been wondering if our criminal courts are public courts where the public can get to view who the accused persons.
This does not seem to be the case in the recently concluded murder trial of the Mongolian international interpreter.
One wonders how the reporters could have seen the expression-less faces of the two accused when their faces are covered in a specially made masks which makes them look like mummies.
In most cases the accused will try to hide their faces with their shirts or any object they can get their hands on whilst the reporters try their best to get a good photograph of them.
But in this case, the masks seems so fitting and nice. Perhaps we could now start a business of making masks and wait at the criminal court lobbies for brisk sales!
Sirul and Azilah are special forces personnel trained to obey their superiors without question. Part of that training is not to ask the reasons for carrying out a particular order - just to do it.
Refusing an order from a high ranking officer may also result in them being taken to task -a court martial even.
What they did was akin to a soldier carrying out his duty - so would you hang a soldier for carrying out an order to kill?
Malaysiakini
10/04/09
I am still confused about the case. My question is - what exactly is their motive for the killing? If there is no motive, then what drove them to commit such a heinous crime?
If the claims that they were instructed by some one are true, then probably that culprit behind should be brought to justice.
This case is NOT closed unless the ones who instructed them are also put on trail.
For these two men, if they have admitted to the murder then justice is done in this instance.
But, as do many Malaysians, we all have a nagging feeling on what was their motivation to commit this crime?
You don't just blow up someone whom you had no prior encounter with unless there is a reason so all angles point to the theory that they were 'carrying out someone's instructions'.
The bizarre manner the investigations and the trial was conducted probably cemented this public opinion.
And now with this sentenced being meted out, it would be a miracle if we will ever get behind the truth.
On second thought, justice is hardly done here. The real 'criminals' have yet to be brought to justice.
If, hypothetically, solid evidence had indeed been adduced in court that pointed to both Azilah and Sirul as the murderers, I still cannot help feeling sorry for them as:
1. Their motives are unknown as it has been established that they did not know the victim personally;
2. Evidence such as the slippers in the Suzuki Vitara and personal belongings confiscated from the apartment seem to be too convenient;
3. Most importantly, the person with the most solid motif, Razak Baginda, was found not guilty and this was not appealed by the prosecution when it had been established that there is an association between him and the two accused;
4. And that until now, the motives of Balasubramaniam's statutory declarations have not been established.
I really feel sorry for both of them and especially their families and that their ordeal is prolonged.
I would have accepted a ‘not guilty' verdict for the simple reason that based on various testimonies, the police had indeed bungled in their investigations.
Somebody should really help this two poor souls.
DD: Based on the decision of the court to hang them (Sirul and Azilah), there are many doubts still unanswered up to now.
How are they (Sirul and Azilah) linked to Altantuya when they did not know her. What was on Altantuya's antagonism towards them?
How did Razak Baginda know these two policemen? Who instructed them to act? Are they the only actors and if yes who is the director of this ‘movie'?
Why did they cover their face all the time in court ? Sounds fishy. Let God punish those who were really involved in this murder on His judgment day.
In the history of crime, only serial killers and mad men committed motiveless crimes.
Malaysia is making criminology history by sending two men, both non-serial killers and both fully sane, to the gallows for a completely motiveless crime they are said to have committed.
International expert criminologists had better rush to Malaysia to find out what fantastic new discoveries we've made in criminology to come to this ‘superb' conclusion.
Are we far ahead in this science from the rest of the world? Or are we experts in ‘scapegoat-ology'?
Starting as PM by stretching credulity is hardly a promising way to get going, Mr PM, sir.
I have been wondering if our criminal courts are public courts where the public can get to view who the accused persons.
This does not seem to be the case in the recently concluded murder trial of the Mongolian international interpreter.
One wonders how the reporters could have seen the expression-less faces of the two accused when their faces are covered in a specially made masks which makes them look like mummies.
In most cases the accused will try to hide their faces with their shirts or any object they can get their hands on whilst the reporters try their best to get a good photograph of them.
But in this case, the masks seems so fitting and nice. Perhaps we could now start a business of making masks and wait at the criminal court lobbies for brisk sales!
Sirul and Azilah are special forces personnel trained to obey their superiors without question. Part of that training is not to ask the reasons for carrying out a particular order - just to do it.
Refusing an order from a high ranking officer may also result in them being taken to task -a court martial even.
What they did was akin to a soldier carrying out his duty - so would you hang a soldier for carrying out an order to kill?
Malaysiakini
10/04/09
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