THE TRUE HISTORY OF CHINESE & INDIANS IN MALAYSIA

As stated by Raja Petra Kamarudin (RPK)

RPK

A confusion has erupted due to ignorance. It has been stated that the Indians came here as beggars and the Chinese as prostitutes. Actually, if you were to really study Malayan and Malaysian history over the last 500 years or so, you will find that this country’s history is not just about beggars and prostitutes. It is about much more than that.

Malayan history has to be dissected into many periods. And each of these periods saw immigration involving almost all the races in Malaysia, save the Orang Asli (the Original People). In New Zealand, these Orang Asli would be the Maoris and in Australia the Aborigines. Therefore, anyone who is neither a Maori nor an Aborigine is a ‘pendatang’ or immigrant.

THE ARABS IN MALAYSIA

The Arabs and the Indians (Muslims from Gujarat) came to Malaya more than 500 years ago as traders and merchants. These were the people who brought Islam to this country. At that time, the locals were mostly Hindus while those from Negeri Sembilan were Buddhists, plus many who worshipped trees, the sea, rivers, mountains and whatnot. The coming of the Arab and Indian merchants exposed the locals to Islam.

In those days, the people followed their Rulers. Therefore, when the Rulers converted to Islam the people followed – although they may not have believed in Islam or understood the religion. In fact, many till today still do not understand Islam after more than 500 years.

THE CHINESE IN MALAYSIA

Then along came the Chinese and many were actually Muslims as well. Islam first reached China around 100 years after Prophet Muhammad. This means Islam had ‘migrated’ to China about 1,300 to 1,400 years ago, 800 to 900 years earlier than Islam in Malaysia. Of course, in the northern states bordering Thailand it was earlier than that. (Refer to the Batu Bersurat discovered in Kuala Berang in Terengganu).

Is it not ironical that Malays call Chinese Muslims ‘mualaf’ when the Chinese were Muslims almost 1,000 years before the Malays even heard of Islam?

Okay, now take my family as an example. The Selangor Sultanate was founded in 1745. The first Sultan, Raja Lumu, migrated here from the Riau islands in Indonesia. By then, of course, the Arabs, Indians and Chinese had already been here 200 to 300 years, some even longer.

But these Arabs, Indians and Chinese were traders and merchants, not warriors or fighters, whereas the Bugis from Riau only knew one occupation – fighting and plundering. In short, they were pirates, which was a noble profession back in those days where even Queen Elizabeth the First knighted those English pirates who plundered Spanish ships.

In fact, the Bugis came here because of a sort of civil war in their home country. There was a fight over a girl and the son of the local Ruler was killed in that fight. So the offending party was exiled and had to leave Riau. And that was when they came here in the 1700s and founded the Selangor Sultanate.

Do not members of the Selangor Royal Family fighting with their Ruler and going into exile sound very familiar to you? Yes, 300 years ago this was the ‘tradition’ and still is in my case.

Invariably, the Bugis, being fighters, took Selangor as their territory by the sheer force of its ‘army’. None of the traders, who although were here earlier, would dare resist the Bugis who enjoyed killing (some Bugis still do today, as you may well be aware). But Selangor was under Perak patronage.

So Raja Lumu had to make a trip to Lumut in Perak to get crowned as the First Sultan by the then 17th or so Sultan of Perak. (Can’t remember if it was the 15th or 17th but it was around that). And he took the name of Sultan Salehuddin Shah.

Selangor eventually grew in prosperity. Actually, tin had already been discovered even before Raja Lumu became Sultan in 1745. And it was the Chinese who were working the tin mines. But now, since Selangor had a ‘government’, all the land in Selangor became ‘state property’. And therefore the Chinese had to get permission from the Sultan before they could mine for tin.

Around 100 years later, only when Sultan Abdul Samad took over as the Fourth Sultan of Selangor in 1859 (he was born in 1804) did they properly organize the tin industry. New areas were opened up in Ampang, Rawang, Kajang, and whatnot. And of course, all these tin mines were owned by the Sultan and members of his family — brothers, sons, nephews, etc.

The Malays, however, did not want to work those mines. Conditions were hard and diseases wiped out entire communities. Those who survived these brutal conditions were the exception rather than the rule. So they needed people who were desperate enough to work those tin mines and were prepared to take the risk and probably lose the ‘gamble’.

And who else to talk to if not the Chinese who had already been working those mines for hundreds of years?

So members of the Selangor Royal Family went into ‘joint venture’ with the Chinese, just like they did in Perak, another rich tin state. The Malay Royals would ‘arrange’ for the tin concessions and the Chinese would provide the labour force to work those concessions. In a way, you could say that the Selangor Royal Family were the first to ‘invent’ the Ali Baba system back in the 1800s, long before the New Economic Policy in 1970.

Anyway, to reach Ampang and those other surrounding rich tin areas, they had to travel up the Klang River. Raja Abdullah and Yap Ah Loy led the first expedition and they landed on the site where the Gombak River and Kelang River meet. The place where they landed is the site of the famous Masjid Jamek in Kuala Lumpur.

From there they marched overland through the jungle into Ampang. And thereafter Kuala Lumpur was never the same again. It prospered and continued to prosper over more than 200 years from the 1800s.

Yap Ah Loy bought up a lot of land in Kuala Lumpur and built his business empire. He opened bars, brothels and all sorts of businesses, legal as well as illegal (illegal by today’s standards though). Even the British Colonial ‘masters’ would patronise Yap Ah Loy’s brothels to sample the latest ‘China Dolls’ brought in from the mainland.

Of course, the normal customers would have to pay for these vices. The British masters, however, could enjoy all these services for free. Yes, even back in the 1800s the Chinese businessmen were already bribing the government officials.

Now, while Yap Ah Loy has been entered into the history books as the ‘Founder of Kuala Lumpur’, Raja Abdullah is never mentioned. The only thing associated with Raja Abdullah is that road in Kampong Baru that carries his name. Yap Ah Loy may have been the capitalist who opened up Kuala Lumpur.

But he was only able to do so because he had a ‘sleeping’ partner, Raja Abdullah, who gave him all this land to develop.

Okay, that is the Chinese story. So, yes, some did come here as prostitutes working for Yap Ah Loy. But that was incidental. Whenever frontier land is opened up the girls servicing these frontier-men follow – like in the Wild West of America. Would you say that the White immigrants to America were all prostitutes?

THE INDIANS IN MALAYSIA

Now, over to the Indians. As I said, the Indian (and Arab) traders and merchants first came here more than 500 years ago and even brought Islam to this country. But the ‘other’ Indians, the workers, came at about the time that Yap Ah Loy and Raja Abdullah were turning Kuala Lumpur into a thriving metropolis.

At that time, the British planters were in Ceylon (Sri Lanka today) growing cocoa. Then a plant disease spread throughout the island and all the trees died. But this disease not only killed all the trees but contaminated the land as well. This means the land was now useless and it was not a matter of just replanting.

Then the British looked at Malaya and decided that the conditions (land, climate, etc.) in Malaya were the same as in Ceylon. So they relocated their cocoa estates to Malaya. But there was no way they could get the Malays to work these cocoa estates. Furthermore, the Ceylonese workers were well trained and had been doing this work for years.

So, in the mid-1800s, the British brought the now unemployed Ceylonese cocoa workers to this country to work the Malayan cocoa plantations.

Then disaster struck. Brazil over-planted cocoa and this triggered a worldwide glut. It was no longer economical to plant cocoa. The price you would fetch for your cocoa was lower than your production cost. The British had no choice but to close down the cocoa plantations.

Around that time, the British, who had mischievously smuggled rubber seeds out of Brazil (which was a crime then), successfully grew rubber trees in the Kew Gardens in London. They also did some research and discovered a better way of planting rubber trees where the trees would give a better yield compared to the trees in Brazil. Rubber planting in Brazil was haphazard and not properly organized.

Since Malaya had to close down all its cocoa plantations and it now had idle plantation land and surplus Ceylonese workers, the British planters decided to switch over to rubber. And because the British took advantage of research and technology, the Malayan rubber trees were more productive and profitable. Eventually, Malaya dislodged Brazil as the top rubber producer in the world.

So, from the mid-1800s to around 1920, Indians and Chinese came to Malaya in great numbers. This was more or less the second wave of mass migration. And it was for economic reasons and to provide the labour for jobs that the Malays would never do. But there were earlier and other migrations as well.

For example, around the late 1800s and early 1900s, the British set up English medium schools for Malays. One such school, the Malay College Kuala Kangsar, was a school exclusive for sons of Royalty and the Malay elite. Invariably, they needed schoolteachers who were proficient in the English language. And India offered a good source of English medium schoolteachers (Malays could not speak English yet at that time).

On the commercial side, there were many Indian businesses, workers and whatnot. But there was no way they could qualify for loans from British owned banks. So the Indians from the Chettiar community came here to set up money-lending businesses to service their community.

When the Malayan rail network was being developed, where else to get the workers if not from the country with the largest railway in the world, India?

WE ARE ALL MALAYSIANS

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Anonymous said...

Thx for TRUE history lesson Sir Pete.

Anonymous said...

I really love this article.. It would be good if this was part of a history lesson in school

Anonymous said...

Well this is the truth, nothing but the truth!

Anonymous said...

U mentioned how n when the Chinese n Indians came to Malaya.. i wonder when n how did the Malays come to malaya then

Anonymous said...

Found this in the historical section of Wikipedia. "Around 300 BC, they were pushed inland by the Deutero-Malays, an Iron Age or Bronze Age people descended partly from the Chams of Cambodia and Vietnam. The first group in the peninsula to use metal tools, the Deutero-Malays were the direct ancestors of today's Malaysian Malays, and brought with them advanced farming techniques"

Anonymous said...

This was the history lesson in the 70s and 80s...

Justice and Democracy said...

Interesting history of Malaya. However need to correct something. About New Zealand, NZ was uninhabited by humans until as late as 1000 years ago. Some say until 700 years ago. It didn't have any indigenous mammals. Maori or their predecessors came to NZ some 700 to 1000 years ago. So this NZ is truly full of pendatangs.

Anonymous said...

well rpk,u re as close to the history sir i missed in my universiti malaya ; if not how can there be mdm ramlah who will fail me for writing the chinese -centric political history of post 2 ww!!!

Anonymous said...

So what is malay's contribution if they dont wanna be miners, they dont wanna be planters? The british already treat them so well here excuse me

Anonymous said...

dont wana be anything and still wanted to claim credit. this is very clearly they are the anak bugis pirates. sad that most of them are so dumb, lazy and greedy.

Anonymous said...

My question is why wouldn't the malays do the work??...to the extend that the british had to bring in the chinese and indians?

Anonymous said...

I am really sorry for what my ancestor did, I can’t really sympathize with all their doing, but so help me, don’t be a racist about it. I know Malay have done many bad things in the past even now. But don’t keep us out for ignorant. I have study hard, self study about English, theist, atheist, psychology, philosophy (I am not good but I study). I know critical thinking. I acknowledge if I was wrong.(sometimes I stubborn)(but it human nature). Yet it all still in English. Here in Malaysia, Indonesia or Brunei, people are still ignorant because we Malay speak Malay language. There are still many English illiterate in this country, I don’t understand all of them (English word), but I’m trying. Don’t dismiss us because of our ancestor. In the end this is Malaysia, and our official language is Malay, I still haven’t found many sophisticated, psychology, philosophy in English word has been translated to Malay (or for it to have been use). It all comes to language we use, culture and custom. I am glad if I can discuss with Chinese or Indian, but it hard, because the first language I use is Malay. So, maybe I seem ignorant and naive, but I hope there is improvement on Malay language itself for people to open their mind. Please if you are Chinese or Indian, please don’t a biased about it, I hope I can befriend you too, and discuss this rational matter. In Malay I would be glad.

Ensurai said...

Great!! History is made truly alive..Very refreshing...thanks.

Anonymous said...

This history, it has long been forgotten. It is sad that some for the sake of greed and vanity keeps the innocent away from such wealth our country actually had - unity.

Anonymous said...

Nope, they didn't teach this at school. The History teacher said: You must accept the fact that you are a from a kaum pendatang. If I meet this teacher again, I would tell him, so are you!

Anonymous said...

History as taught before the 80s or before when the politicians meddle with the education n history books.

Anonymous said...

A little biased article perhaps ignorant.
Truth is until Portuguese took over Malacca and developed the trading outpost into a thriving city most visitors, traders or foreign chinese and indian workers would have never settled.
Without the British later further developing the other straits settlements most chinese and indians would have never been attracted to to the malaysian peninsula in search of better lives... I cannot help to find it ridiculous how people who migrated to the straits settlements precisely because of western economic development, and then stayed mostly as illegal immigrants later refer with disdain to the same westerners who gave them those opportunities.... this is particularly ridiculous fro singapore chinese who have been brainwashed to believe they alone developed a swamp into a thriving not racist city.

Had westerners had been as racist as current inhabitants of peninsula malaysia, there would be no indians, chinese and only living in the peninsula.

Anonymous said...

You are like that because of our education system. I am over 40 years old. I started primary school in Malaysia in the late 70s when the education system was being converted from English medium to Malay medium.

But even then, by the time I reached secondary school, practically all the Malay friends that I had were still able to speak, understand and write English if not very well then at least functionally. And these were not the "rich, privileged" Malays. Many of them came to school in the Yayasan Selangor buses.

Then when I left school in the mid 80s till now, I see not only the standard of English dropping but also of the overall standard of education.

No one is looking down on anyone here. If you feel that you are disadvantaged because you cannot speak English well, then how do you explain all the Chinese and Indians who also cannot speak English well who have become successful in their careers or businesses? The problem is not language. The problem is attitude and belief.

The only people putting you Malays down and keeping you down are you Malays yourselves. That and the government that wants to CONTINUE making you believe that you NEED them to be successful in life. And perhaps that is why there are more Chinese and Indians who are successful financially. It is because we Chinese and Indians don't get ANYTHING given to us from the government, and we basically have to struggle for what we want in a system that gives all the advantages to the Malays and non to everyone else

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Unknown said...

I have been living in Germany for the last 15 years and ironically not once has anyone referred to me in an insulting way. I speak the language fluently, I work hard pay my taxes and the Germans embrace me for my contribution towards the society.. a totally different scenario from where I was born and went to school. I feel very grateful that I am able to pursue my belief in my own abilities, and was able to boost my self confidence within this lifetime -- something that I was deprived of while living in Malaysia.

Unknown said...

Thank you sir, for the much needed history lesson. While in secondary school, we covered the history of our founding fathers quite thoroughly. Islamic history and Malaysian history were seen as equally important. I wonder what the kids are made to cover these days. To complement your history lesson, this proud 'anak Melaka' / Baba Nyonya / 8th Generation 'pendatang' wants to chime in with a bit of our Malaccan history too :) The founding of Melaka pre-dates the founding of all other cities in M'sia.

Malacca was a fishing village inhabited by local Malays (also considered 'pendatang' as they were not Orang Asli in origin). Malacca was founded by Parameswara, also known as Iskandar Shah the last Raja of Singapura (present day Singapore) following a Majapahit attack in 1377. He found his way to Malacca around 1400.

In collaboration with allies from the sea-people (orang laut), the wandering proto-Malay privateers of the Straits, he established Malacca as an international port by compelling passing ships to call there, and establishing fair and reliable facilities for warehousing and trade. So, working with other 'pendatang(s), the first Sultan of Malaya actually invited other 'pendatang(s)' to come and trade.

Because of its strategic location, Malacca was an important stopping point for Laksamana Cheng Ho's fleet. To enhance relations, Hang Li Po, according to local folklore a daughter of the Ming Emperor of China, arrived in Malacca, accompanied by 500 attendants, to marry Sultan Manshur Shah who reigned from 1456 until 1477. Her attendants married locals and settled mostly in Bukit China.

Conclusion: Parameswara (the original 'pendatang') invited other pendatangs (Arabs, Indians, Chinese etc) to Malacca to trade. Then another ruling pendatang called Sultan Manshur Shah needed Chinese protection, so married a pendatang who brought 500 pendatangs with her. Her bodyguards (Hang Tuah etc) became the most heroic pendatangs in our history.

Anonymous said...

Westerns taking Africans as slaves are not racists? What you call it?

Anonymous said...

Most facts are correct however there is still some inaccurate.. There is a reason y alot of chapters of wat we learn last time in our history classes have been remove from the syllabus ... In other words , the history for the younger generations as published and taught in d school currently have been fabricated.. Do dig up on d reasons 'why' and u will definitely be shocked ...

天寶燕窩 Tian Bao Birdnest said...

Malays won't work could be the same as Russian do not work the land they own at north east Russia. Those Russian only drink vodka. Even Russian land owner would lease out the land to the Chinese and not local Russian.

Unknown said...

you can't find these facts in the government syllabus now.all had been distorted.

Unknown said...

it is clearly revealed by Raja Petra that the Malay were not the ABORIGINES.And you know that they don't work [they hate working]。

天寶燕窩 Tian Bao Birdnest said...

Study from Singapore. A tiny city but has more millionaires

Unknown said...

why they need working since they claimed themselves BUMIPUTRA,they are the ABORIGINES ,NOT the orang ASLI.

Unknown said...

The FACT is that you will be able to overlook the TRUE [TRUTH] histories written by the BRITISH ,BUT NOT UMNO the present government.LOTS have been DISTORTED。

Anonymous said...

There were Maori here in Aotearoa/NZ well before then. You need to put down your British Colonial History book. The Pakeha/British Colonial History is made of myths.

Unknown said...

THE FACT IS CLEAR THAT THE MALAY IS NOT THE ABORIGINE

Unknown said...

The Indian arrived about 150 BCE followed by the Chinese... There is no Malay if this isn't the case. Indo-China = Indian + Chinese = all in between India & China. Ganga Nagara 150 BCE follow by Langkasuka 14 AD follow by Sri Vijaya to Angkor than Majapahit before Malaka. Sang Nila utama or Paramesuara is a Hindu & a descendent of Sri Vijaya Empire until he convert to Muslim because he wanted to form an allied kingdom under China Ming dynasty. That was the condition applied by ONG SAM POH ( Zheng He) or Haj Mahmud @ Ma He a Muslim Pilgrim who sail across the world to spread Islam. The beauty of the true Malaysian history is you can’t find it in Malaysia but its recorded in India, China and country surrounding it. The Portuguese, Dutch, British & Japanese distort it but not as bad as the Ultra Malay in the 70' onward, The dismantle it and reassemble in their own version. Malaysia Boleh (Putar Belit)

Anonymous said...

They were pirates/robbers.....they robbed us and now they want to kill u and take whatever we created....where the harvest is already there.

serani in perth said...

Sir,
I admire you for your efforts in trying to improve your English. The issue is not "the Malay mindset" . The real issue is this, UMNO is desperate to cling to power. PAS is trying to get more power (I think they are talking about Hudut etc) . This is not necessarily good for Malaysia. Approximately about 60% Muslim only. Both political parties will play the race and religion card. When they use the non-muslims as the "bogeyman" this will only end in disaster for Malaysia. If a foreign power moves in to try and "take over" , then can Malaysia depend on 100% of its people defending her. ??? Of couse UMNO CONNECTED politicians & "loyar buruk" politicians will then question the loyalty & blame the non-muslims for not defending Malaysia like in the Lahad Datu affair. Many non-malay Malaysians want to serve the country. If they have difficulty getting into the services or don't get the same promotion prospects as Malays get then you cannot expect them to serve like a "hamba" (some Malay words I am not good at but I will try). No one wants to be a slave forever. You cant expect them to suddenly step up to the front line when the enemy appears. Malays have to be what is called inclusive in the selection of non-malays in the civil service. Not like the UMNO politicians shouting "apa lagi china mahu?" I had to leave the country of my birth, Malaysia To go luar negeri to cari makan." In 1971. I wish you well !!!!

Anonymous said...

Fuck you. Not all malay la

Anonymous said...

It should not matter whether you are Malay, Chinese, Indians or any other race so long you are a citizen you should enjoy the same right. All Malaysians are pendatangs and it is just a matter when your forefather arrive in now Malaysia. Quite a fair portion of so called bumiputras are just second generation Indonesians. And also some bumiputras are Indian muslims. So, what is all this discretionary terms? All because of greed for wealth and power.

michael said...

Well concise history of Malaysia and so simply explained. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Ayoyo !! all of you believe in what this Petra King is saying. He even not dare to come back to what he so called homeland. Look like he is so hatred towards Malay. Please PETRA, read the REALLY-REALLY TRUE HISTORY of Tanah Melayu (not Malaysia ok) before come out with your version of history. One more thing if we say Malay in Tanah Melayu is pendatang then, Chinese in Tanah Besar China and Indian in India is also should be called as pendatang.

Anonymous said...

That is why they are called Malay!!

Anonymous said...

http://www.localhistories.org/malaysia.html

Anonymous said...

No one calls here Tanah Melayu. Its just a fabrication to make it seems that Malays are here first and hence owned the whole place. Fact, they are orang asli and then there are bumiputras. So what makes them special other than that Malays have the most numbers staying in Malaysia? And I believe we are the only country in the world where special attention and needs are given to the Majority....

Anonymous said...

I would love to hear your version if this version is inaccurate. And I do not agree anyone is a pendatang. Malaysia declared independence with the population within the country as their citizens and they bear identification cards as a proof of citizenship. Who is to call one or the other a pendatang? It is very dangerous and wrong to brand a particular race and I still think many incident today is still a reflection of certain individuals who are more concerned about their personal gains. Do you think they care so much about their race as to flourish everyone but themselves?

Anonymous said...

dude didnt you read the article? its right in there where, when and how the Malays came to Malaya

Anonymous said...

Of course they are racists, till a certain time. And one of them has emerged to be the President of USA now.

Anonymous said...

Reminds me of my buku Sejarah Form Dua, in the 80s <3. MJ

Anonymous said...

Decades after decades, we have been fighting about who should be Malaysian and who are pendatangs. But yet in the eyes of foreigner, we are all Malaysian. Whenever I'm overseas and no matter which country I went to, people will only ask, "Where do you come from?" and not "What are your origin". I can only reply "I'm from Malaysia and therefore I'm seen as a Malaysian and not Malaysian Chinese or Malaysian Malay or Malaysian Indian. I'm just Malaysian.

Anonymous said...

where is your REALLY REALLY TRUE HISTORY? this is Malaysia, not Tanah Melayu.

Anonymous said...

Great article ~.~

Anonymous said...

A country succeeds when it's population succeeds. Succesful people are the basis of a succesful country. Governments rely on their country's production and ability to trade with other countries. Even countries that are rich in natural resources rely on the conversion of said resources into usable and or tradeable products.
Regardless of history and who is 'pendatang' or 'sudah/tengah duduk di sini' (duduk, with it's numerous meanings being used intentionally), a smart and forward thinking government will drive and reward the segments of positive economic producing population to ensure prosperity for its country and population at large. Yes?
A simple and basic fact to consider then...even with so many who evade taxes, if you really want to talk about which origin of population (race of people) should be encouraged, rewarded and held in higher regard, then consider which origin of population produces for this country and pays the highest amounts of taxes...
Smack that with a short bendy stick!

Anonymous said...

We are all pengdatang! Even the orang asli!. It is human evolution process to migrate and intermix. The different is the timing. Take Australia and USA as example, the whole nation is governed by pengdatang and the difference as compare to Malaysia is the ATTITUDE caused by racism. To other countries, we are all Malaysian but our government insist on racism. Only in Malaysia our government insist on classification of races and religion. We used to be so proud of our multiracial societies that were the jewel in the British Empire but now everything is governed by race and religion. Take the government [Barisan National] for example, even the whole concept of component parties are racial based. Ever wonder why the Chinese are migrating? Why the brains drain? That is the reason. Ever wonder why the American can become so strong and British Empire collapsed? It is because the American gone thru a civil war to eradicate racism and slavery.
I can go on and on about this topic, but the real Malaysian will never ever be proud of Malaysia until all its citizen realized that race and religion are INSIGNIFICANT. I am afraid that I will never witness the day when the citizen of this nation can PROUDLY declare themselves to the world that we are MALAYSIAN, just as the AMERICAN did and still do. That will only happen when the chinese, indian, selani, muslim, christians, and the malays forget about racism and religion and get their acts together. Then we are truly MALAYSIAN.

Anonymous said...

sorry to say but for ur information , 68% of malay language is tamil and sanskrit,,, but still get discriminated.... haiyaa,,, very sad lo, no one knws about this...

Anonymous said...

How I wish Ridhuan Tee (aka, the new Malay) will read this. At least to get some basic knowledge. He is a lecturer without any knowledge, so some one, pls feed him.

Unknown said...

Bugis people are from south Sulawesi.. Not from Riau.

Anonymous said...

First please abolish the "race" information we have to put in all government or non governmental forms. We are all MALAYSIAN, so forget about the race.

Anonymous said...

Bugis People Under Aru Palaka (previously king of Bone Kingdom) originated from Island of Sulawesi, and after fighting with Sultan Hassanudin from Gowa Kingdom (current days Makassar) ,and betrayed by the Dutch they fled to Temasek and Coastal Area around Singapore, Johor and Riau islands.

Anonymous said...

Back then maybe the Malays hate to work but to say it on the Malays to today is so fucking racist remark. Racist chinese like your sir the the major cause of racial disharmony today in Malaysia.

Anonymous said...

Haih...... Read la the Constitution :)

anak murid prof khoo kay kim said...

Aku geram sgt bila org x faham sejarah tapi nak menulis sejarah. Kedudukan org melayu x boleh d samakan dgn org china & india..kenapa? Bangsa melayu walau dr mana dtg nya itu x penting..yg PENTING..siapa yg mengasaskan kerajaan MELAYU d sini? Walaupun nanti ada yg mendakwa parameswara dr indonesia..TAPI..boleh ke dia jadi raja kalau x de org melayu jadi rakyatnya? British pon mengakui kedaulatan kerajaan d sini sbg kerajaan MELAYU. Apa masalah??? Pedagang cina & india dr dulu pun mengakui kedaulatan raja2 melayu..dan mereka turut patuh d bwah pmth kerajaan melayu sejak zmn kesultanan MELAYU Melaka lagi..malah pendatang2 cina & india yg d bawa british. W'pon masa itu mereka x d anggap sbg rakyat dlm kerajaan MELAYU tapi sbg ORANG ASING. Satu lgi tuduhan knapa org melayu dulu x suka bekerja..sebab sblum kdtngan org asing..org melayu tiada perasaan/ semangat brsaing. Org melayu brasa telah cukup dgn apa yg ada..ada rumh..ada sawh & ternakan..org melayu tidak materialistik. Segala2nya ada d sekeliling ... berbeza dgn bangsa asing yg dtg..rata2 memang papa kedana..tiada apa2..jadi bangsa asing brlumba2 menguasai ekonomi..sehingga akhirnya org melayu yg ketinggalan. Jadi jgn lupa bangsa MELAYU lah yg mengasaskan KERAJAAN d sini...org melayu yg entah dari mana dtg nya yg menyokong raja2 mereka..yg taat setia dan rela mempertahankan kerajaan mereka dari dulu hingga kini...jadi jgn nak mengaku sbg rakyat jika tiada kesetiaan kpd raja & negara. HARAP MAKLUM.

Anonymous said...

yes, clear and simple. Is it that difficult for UMNO to comprehend?
the more the malays are fed, the fatter they become,obese sooner or later, and we all know what happen when they get overfed.They get lazy,albeit not all of them.But we know where that leads to...mediocrity, incompetence, laziness, and what else.What is worse is that they drag everyone else with them to suffer.Hey, if the malays want to feed well, go ahead and stuff yourselves, but dont do evil things like impoverishing others, so you can continually suck on others taxes ,blood and tears.Do some heavy lifting for the country, work that is.

Anonymous said...

Malays don't work for british..becoz thy alredy have evrything thy need at tht time...thy are not greedy..thy are satisfy with whataver thy have...but the pendatang was the other way round...

Unknown said...

There was 5000years of china history were recorded , if compared to malaya history where started from1400s, I dont believe no 1 of Chinese had nv come to the land where we call "tanah air". I dont believe we are "pendatangs".
Now we all are living here, I hope all of us can think for feature but not ignoring some race or discussing who is "pendatangs".
Pls ... malaysia's government, we just want live comfortably but not want to robbing ur thing, we earn using our hands, our minds, dont stop our intelligently.

Anonymous said...

As I know, baba nyonya is actually a cutural combination of malay and chinese. If Chinese is not settled here then where baba nyonya from?

Anonymous said...

You cant avoid the truth of the jobs are unwanted. Dont says you all ketinggalan. Its unwanted jobs and thats the facts

Anonymous said...

Ever considered during Melaka period.... and why Indian & Chinese trader come over.... Alot of thing we don't know after portugese and others invaded...the actual history have been stolen....

Johari Yusof said...

Please be clear about a couple of things today:
1. Most Malays have no idea what's really going on. The ones living in small towns and villages have only their religious leaders and village/town elders to tell them. Of course, there is mainstream media. The commonality here is UMNO controls all and any information/misinformation. You could argue that these folks can/should find things out themselves but until you've lived in their world, I'd ask you to hold your tongue. I have relatives that live in villages where only a few homes have TVs and they are 20-year old boxes, not your fancy LCDs. It is a hard life but they've never complained until UMNO told them their hard life is because of the Chinese and Indians. They don't understand why or how but they are starting to get upset.
2. The only Malays that prosper are they ones raping my country and my fellow countrymen. These are also known as the UNMO elite and their buddies. I call them Malays only loosely because they do not represent all Malays. I will never call them Muslim or Islam followers because what they do everyday is haram and may incur severe punishments in Islamic teachings. It is these UNMO elite that are stepping on the heads of my fellow Malays to keep them uninformed, uneducated, poor and angry. It is these UNMO elites that sow seeds of hatred and fear across ALL races for while they are mostly not intellects, they are smart enough to know it is much easier to dominate when the populace is in-fighting. Sadly, all races are falling deep into this cleverly laid out yet very simple trap.

History lessons are invaluable, truly. However, it is only one part. It tells us how we got here. What happens next is up to us.

Anonymous said...

I believe every Malaysians regardless of race should be able to speak fluent Malay language,abolish SJK schools and maybe change their names to Malay sounding names like what Thailand and Indonesia are doing.Those who can't and not willing to are pendatang to me and they deserve to be treated like 2nd class citizens.

Anonymous said...

Every country would want to preserve their history but not us, changing it to suit their needs! How to progress when we keep fighting on who came first? Is this so important, rather than helping each another achieve a better Malaysia? Everyone that came to this peninsula has help develop it to what we have now, can we not at least preserve it? Everyone that holds their I/C r legal citizens of Malaysia, don't segregate us by race. Cover the photo n name on it, can u tell the difference? Don't play the race game to disturb the harmony n peace we hv enjoyed all these years. Please....

Anonymous said...

Precisely! You nailed it!

Unknown said...

What u all going to gain end of the day by pressing on the "Pendatang" matter? Histoy clearly said that Malaya now Malaysia is belong's to all the ppl who was on the Malaya land frm the day one. We all actually pendatang but differences is period of lenght and who came 1st and who came last. Now just put aside and we are legaly malaysian citizenship after independent 1957. Pendatang now is the foreigners who came from Bangladesh,Mymmar,India,China,Indonesia and from whatever country thru Passport n Visa. So pls be gentlemen and work towards achievements. If we quarrel each other other pendatang now will laught at us. Pls dnt reveal 500 yrs stroy anymore bcoz our ancestor are no more with us to reveal the true of history's. Be Malaysian and proud as a Malaysian. Teach to our children's today's history and not the older's history bcoz this will lead to racism war one day which will never benefit to we all.

Anonymous said...

fak the lazy pigs!

Anonymous said...

http://malaysiafactbook.com/The_Chinese_Dilemma

Anonymous said...

Jangan menafikan asal usul sendiri , hakikat tetap hakikat. BANGSA TIONGHUA DAN INDIA tidak pernah menafikab asal usul mereka, itulah sebabnya mereka berjaya dalam apa juapun. Mereka berani, rajin, tidak pernah memikir untuk merampas apa apa tanpa usaha, tidak pernah mencari alasan jika tidak berjaya, mereka tetap akan mencuba sehingga berjaya. Tanpa mereka, apa nak jadi kepada Malaysia kini? Kini dah zaman tanpa sempadan, tanpa mereka, Malaysia akan menjadi negara yang langsung tidak dapat bertanding dengan negara lain, mundur, miskin. Berterima kasih kepada mereka yang menyumbang untuk membangunkan negara ,banyak habuan dah diberi kepada melayu pendatang juga dari Indon,APA KAMU MAHU LAGI? Tanah di Dunia ini sebenarnya tidak dimilikI siapa -siapa ,kita semua akan meninggalkan dunia ini suatu hari nanti, tidak ada terkecuali, sedarlah, adik, INSAFLAH supaya nanti dapat pergi ke Syurga.

Anonymous said...

Tak cakap pon yang kite tak mengakui raja2 melayu/ kerajaan melayu. memang kite akui. tp selain tu, ada citernye dan sejarahnye jugak. Tp memang ada tuduhan mengata melayu malas nk keje. sb tu british bawak org cine and india masuk. yg tu pun i pernah baca kat buku sejarah di universiti. x dapat la nk gado. depan depan mata takkan la tak nk ngaku.

Anonymous said...

very true

Anonymous said...

Ohw really ? Chinese Are The One Who Are Racist ! Get Your Facts Right , Dude !

Anonymous said...

agree.... Why we need to classify ourself as natve( bumiputera ) ,, org asli,,,pendatang,,whatsover nouns granted from politicians,, socialists, linguistic etc..Humans instinct, was to survive,, whenever thier survival condition or situation affected,,,sure protection coming in....2 cts comments

Anonymous said...

Adoiii Konsep muallaf pon fail.. inilah dia belajar agama takde guru.

Anonymous said...

It's still comes down how does human behave.
At the past era, shelter, food and security was a premium. Hence, when the residence in Malaya have enough of these, they are happy with it.
However, not all of them able to survive/make a living. They have no choice to explore other countries.

As what I studied at secondary school, Chinese are merchants that sold silk at Malacca Port and Indians sold their spices(very valuable at that time), and Muslims sold their products(can't remember) while they spread their religion beliefs to the others.
Malaya is a country that doesn't have 4 seasons and less mother nature disasters hence, it is an ideal place for merchants to settle down. It is a port, not much weather problem, less disasters.
But why doesn't they choose Indonesia or other neighbor countries? well, they are not a famous trading port as Malacca. hence, economically it is not an ideal place to settle down.

But why does Malays have misunderstanding that they are lazy,greedy and so on?

Well, as a nature of merchants, they are very used to competitions and they able to survive through that. But the Malays are not exposed to that.

However, Malays are not ignorant. Since business isn't their strength, but using their fighting abilities and early arrival status, they can rule the state and alliance with the merchants by giving protections to the merchants (merchants do not want any wars or fights or whatsoever).

Human beings have flaws, human are not perfect right? Everyone sees this opportunity. And other people wants to obtain this power. Greed comes in to play. They will do anything to keep their powers.

So, who to blame? Nobody should. No one is at fault.


Just my two cents. And my english are not really good :P

Anonymous said...

so, the malays are pendatang as well, the rampus the land that owned by orang asli, take the contributions of Chinese n Indian, and declare themselves as pemilik tanah :)

Anonymous said...

This was taught in the History lesson back in 1993-1997 when I was in high school. Back then, 99% of us acknowledged the fact, went home, digested it, went to sleep, and lived happily ever after. Back then. What happened to our text book now?

Anonymous said...

So the "pendatang" came at that time because they are greedy? Come on Anonymous @ 7:08 AM, are you having memory loss symptom? Get the fact right and not the distorted stories created by certain people! May all the people who sacrificed their life during the trying time who came to make a living for their families come to see you to share their sad stories with you everyday, Anonymous @ 7:08 AM. Let's hope this happen the soonest!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous @ May 12, 2014 at 9:27 AM

Changing name and speak fluent Malay language gets first class citizen treatment? Man, do you have many Malay students get poor results in written and spoken Malay at school due to their local slang?

Before you hit out to people, please look at yourself at the mirror first!

Anonymous said...

Ada fakta x2 yang tidak boleh di nafikan. 1 kedatangan bangsa "pendatang" jauh sebelum Melayu. 2. Kerajan yang di soju ollih British adalah Sultan x2. Tapi bukan metros yang berkuasa skrang. 3. Kalah ugama seal sebelum Islam adalah Hindu and seblm ity yang lain. (Tapi mana semua kuil purba...) 4. Kedudukan economy adalah jelas...
Dalam semua ini yang penting adalah semua kaum ada nak until di panggil warganegara Malaysia.

Unknown said...

If want to highlight the history of Chinese & Indian in Malaysia not thru the comments but published a Historyical book with the truth info.

Anonymous said...

the hard working chinese are rich, that's what the malay say, there are also rich malays because they are hard working... while the rest of malays? they just work and get what they need and when government imposed this and that which burdens them, they will go on strike...

Anonymous said...

Malacca had been a thriving trading port even before the coming of the Portuguese. This was the history taught back before the 80's. And at that time history books came form the Britain.

Unknown said...

Don't argue who is the "pendatang". We all human are "pendatang" to this earth. Everyone should be treat equally. Better wealth comes with hardwork. No FOC things in this realistic world.

Anonymous said...

the chinese in malaysia never wanted to be the ruler of this country, we never say we want to be prime minister, all we want is more opportunities, we want more vacancies in the government jobs, more chances to get scholarship and get into local universities... it is obvious that the chinese outrank performance compare to the malays but neever had the opportunities to contribute... the chinese are obviously a better contributor to the country compared to the malays, but the malays always get the opportunities before the other races... president Obama was asking for more opportunities given to the non malays because he knows that we are more hard working and smarter than the malays, who always sleep in jobs and causes a lot of delayments...

anonymous said...

O this is so interesting and true history of our land compared to the now distorted one. Bring this back!!!

Anonymous said...

yes, have a clear mind and not blame any particular race or political parties (but most political parties is for personal gain).
do not believe everything ur leader said.
history is history, past is past, what is important is now and present !!!

would the law punish ur whole family for few generations becoz of one person did??? if not they why do we still argue (and manipulate by unscrupulous people who talks about history and rights so you will support them)

if we who are in the present did not take action against these unscrupulous people, then our future beloved country and generation is truly going to suffer !!! check n balance is a must...

Anonymous said...

True all the Daeng Parani n Hus brothers. From Selatan Sulawesi

Anonymous said...

Yes, askar upahan Jaws melarikan diri balik ke Jawa.Sekarang duduk sini panggil diri mereka warganegara.! Actually they r today's Indon.Same lah!!

Anonymous said...

Mainly came 2 Johor. Married their kids 2 Johor royalty n their grand children diberi nama dengan gelaran Raja. Supaya diterima oleh pembesar Melayu Johor. So as they married the local pendatang Malays 2 day no one knows who r the actual Bugis except for their lanun n greedy nature!

Anonymous said...

Org melayu pon x tuduh bangsa lain merampas hak mereka..siapa rajin dialah yg dpt ganjarannya..buktinya byk bangsa lain dah kaya raya hasil kerajinan mereka...ada org melayu rompak harta kauorng? Korang meniaga cekik darah pon org melayu beli juga brang. Org melayu yg brutang dgn bunga tinggi pun org nelayu byar jugak utang mereka..sbb dulu mereka susah. dulu masa melayu byk hidup susah dan melarat...bangsa lain x kisah pun...tapi bila byk melayu dah sedar dan cuba membaiki diri...bangsa lain mula tak senang duduk...mula tuduh mcm2...kata org melayu anak kerajaan..bangsa lain d anaktirikan. Padahal seseorg itu kalau d bantu tapi malas & x ada ilmu..memanglah 'kelaut' jadinya.. mungkin bangsa lain akan senyap kalau org melayu trus hidup merempat, miskin dan bodoh...agaknya la...

Anonymous said...

you say arabs and gujarati muslims brought Islam to Malaya? They both follow mainly hanafi sect right? So how come the Malays are Shafies?

Anonymous said...

I like it when u become angry..so u dont like it when its not true...So nxt time don't simply judge malys as lazy n dosnt like to do work..when u don't really understnd the malay culture at tht time...thy dosnt need to wrk in the rubber plntation or in the mine bicoz the alredy have land to work at. Wheres the imigrants doesnt have anything so they have to work vv hrd to mke a living..and to do anything possible to become rich. It dosnt mean tht imigrnts are greedy..thy just work hard at their very own way...i learn this frm my lecturer prof khoo kay kim

Unknown said...

anak murid prof khoo kay kim > You're pretty blind to not see how RPK gave a clear example of how everyone else in Malaysia are pendatangs except the Orang Asli. Even in Australia (where I am at now), when the government is clearly held by caucasians - they admit that -they- are immigrants.

The Aboriginies are given so much rights to the land and other immigrants of different races are treated the SAME as the average caucasian. There's no bullshit NEP here. They aren't as egoistic as to CLAIM their supremacy just because they made their governments here. So, your point is simply invalid.

Unknown said...

Very well written good sir!

Anonymous said...

Please, go and penetrate yourself. You need to know the difference between race, ethnic and religion. What is the point of changing names, when you still need to write in the "Race" column? So you are asking us to change race, or just to change name for your liking? If justice is guaranteed, then I don't mind doing that (note the difference between justice and equality; I chose the word which is more appropriate: justice). Furthermore, I've mastered the Malay language till the point that I can speak in pure Malay accent (passed your first so called requirement). No offense, but, I'd just call you a piece of shit. I have no qualms about the necessity to speak Malay in order to stay here, but to change our names? Our identities? Please go back to school and learn the difference between 'bangsa' and 'etnik'. Do you know that it is not compulsory to change your name; if you're converting from a 'kafir' religion to Islam? I'm a Chinese from the Hakka descent. That's my given name by ethnic, but still, I'm willing to tell you; that I'm a human first, Malaysian second, and Chinese third (compare this with what is your priority). So just because I'm not willing to change my name, I'm a 'pendatang'; and deserve to be treated like second class citizens? Leaving history and the past aside, I was born here. Even my late grandfather was born here. From that generation up till now, the progress of my family tree is just from poverty till below average income (contradicts with most Malay mentality who thinks all Chinese are rich). I'm 24 years old and have yet to leave Malaysia. So the question is, am I a 'pendatang'?

Anonymous said...

Hi Bro,

I'm not really too sure, as there is no evidence to prove how Islam was brought to Malaysia. However, in my opinion, it might have been brought in by the Chinese (from China). I have no evidence, but it is a possibility. Or perhaps, it might be brought in by the Arabs and Gujarati Muslims first, and Chinese Muslims next, and over the lapse of time, perhaps Muslim Malay scholars and peoples adapted Shafie sect? Anything is possible bro.

I am not a Muslim, so I don't really have the right to talk much. But however, in the Chinese history (China), Muslims have contributed a lot (Just an example to show the difference of religion's in the past and present). It is ironic seeing that religious harmony from a millennium up to a few centuries ago was way better than the religious harmony we have now. [Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hui_people & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_China#Martial_arts]

Anonymous said...

Please show where your reference is from so that we can all have a look at it.

Anonymous said...

anak murid prof khoo kay kim > Dari mana asal usul Bangsa Melayu yang kau pertahankan? Tak lain dan tak bukan dari Yunan, Selatan China. Bangsa Melayu juga telah datang ke tanah ni dan merampasnya dari orang asli di sini. Pernahkah bangsa kau berfikir sedemikian? Tidak! malah kau rasa ianya milik kamu kesemuanya. Banyak fakta yang telah dipadamkan dari sillabus Sejarah yg asal. Tujuannya jelas untuk memecah-belahkan dan mengaburkan mata rakyat Malaysia. Manusia mempunyai akal dan dapat menilai. Buatlah kajian dengan adil dan tanpa benci maka kau akan sedarlah. Jika benar kau tau yg kau ketinggalan dan perlu bersaing, maka bersainglah. Negara perlu maju tapi kau hanya duduk menunggu? Tunjukkan yang kamu mampu. Perasaan hormat dan taat adalah dari apa yg telah kau sumbangkan. Bukan kerana sumbangan Datuk moyang kamu. Tidak akan ada rasa cemburu/ adanya masalah untuk tinggal bersama dgn bangsa yang satu. Bangsa Malaysia. Apa yang aku dapat jika Bangsa aku sahaja yang maju? TIADA. Melainkan diri aku sendiri yang maju. Bila kau maju, baru bolehlah kau membantu yang lain untuk maju tanpa mengira warna kulit. Apa yang kami semua dapat jika Malaysia maju? SEGALANYA. Dari pendapatan rakyat, kedudukan matawang negara, sehingga kualiti barangan keperluan kita juga meningkat. Respect dari negara asing. Yang itulah paling penting.

Anonymous said...

This was what I studied during my history class.

Anonymous said...

Good Information .

Aku...Stay Free said...

Damme wikipedia.
Its all a lie...
There is no such iron age, bronze age.its all crap...

All muslim should know this.!!!

Anonymous said...

This is the best statement......we are Malaysians

Anonymous said...

If Malay are the pendatang, how the hell the word TANAH MELAYU, KEPULAUAN TANAH MELAYU, KETUANAN MELAYU, KESULTANAN MELAYU came from? From sky eh?...Silly!...Chinese and Indian should feel grateful to what they have..Malaysia is heaven to them...and from the name of MALAYsia...we know already which race belongs to this country...- THE MALAYS

Unknown said...

If this is some kind of factual points ... the whole article should be based on facts with evidence with no contamination of opinions from the writer.

I would like to go back here to this line
"In fact, many till today still do not understand Islam after more than 500 years."

How you going to defend this ? This line is clearly off from a "history lesson" .

There is no evidence to support this. If you are going to say those days people didn't understand at that time.. its fairly understood given the fact that the converted like a wholesale clearance of baptism.
But till today they don't understand sounds rather vague and weak point ... as a matter of fact .. a poor opinion .

Anonymous said...

Haiya.. don't care so much about history n what's gone is by gone. We are all living in "now" and "future". What's important is that no matter what kind of skin colors we got here living. We are all MALAYSIAN, BORN HERE AND WITH MYS IC, CITIZENS HERE!!! History is past tense and we have no rights to blame who's fault and it's unchangeable. As long as we all educated young adults bersatu here, no racism.. Malaysia will grow n strong.. Hopefully our future, our gov is doing the right things and don't make Malaysia gets corrupted will do. Thanks

Anonymous said...

Upon reading all such comments, I can say that collectively there are mix reactions in relation to the article. Either ways, I have learned a little more from what i know. However, as one is to usually not foresee what is to happen tomorrow, hence the best that all we can do at times is to reminisce the past and plan for the future (call me simple minded). I remember the sweet memories when I was young, the days of the "walkman" or "yoyo", the NKOTB and or the Beetles. In school, mucking and mixing around together with all our friends, we teased but we fought too in the spirit of sports were our daily affair and heck-we even mix and eat together during "provocative periods" but with due respect. Those days, all of us call ourselves as friends, brothers and family- with no colour, ethnic and social status boundaries. If those days are the glory days,the "muhibbah days" I think we should do some reflection on what has happened from then on forth.

Anonymous said...

Actually the Chinese aaaarrrreeee racist. We have to admit that also.

Anonymous said...

I am fourth generation born and bred in Malaysia. To see the country veing pulled by all sides and probably be destroyed by this nonsensical terminology of race and relgion and pendatang or not.
My great great grandparents worked hard and so did my other grest and grandparents and my parents too. Being fourth generation born am I still a pendatang or foreigner in my birth country. What about my children then . Are we because we are Chinese forever be a foreigner in our country of birth.
Please enlighten me. This is a sad day when I now question the meaning of One Malaysia.

Anonymous said...

Second this.. kill greed and equal right follows

Anonymous said...

THOSE WHO R NOT ACCEPT THE TRUTH WILL BE BITTER WHEN A REAL PROOF COMES IN FRONT OF THEM.THANKS FOR THIS ARTICLE..............RAJA RAJATHAN.

Anonymous said...

hang li po = chinese princess from china mainland
hang tu ah = malay laksamana
hang je bat = against the sultan
im confused n im indonesian+pakistani+dutch = malaysian malay

Anonymous said...

Pendatang atau bukan...sudah bukan isu...sama2 sudsh menjadi rakyat m'sia. Sepatutnya hidup bantu membantu satu sama lain dan bukannya dengki apabila kerajaan membantu golongan yg susah & miskin. Pada pendpt anda..yg mana d kira sbg keadilan..memberi peluang yg sama kpd kaya & miskin, susah & senang utk bersaing dlm kehidupan atau menolong yg miskin & susah utk bersaing dgn yg sudah kaya & senang? Saya sbg melayu yg sudah mampu...w'pun anak saya d tawarkan biasiswa kerajaan tapi saya x mengambilnya utk memberi peluang kpd org lain...dan saya tahu ramai melayu yg buat pekara yg sama. Dan saya juga tahu ramai org yg mampu dan kaya (melayu dan bukan melayu)tapi masih mengambil bantuan kerajaan. Bantuan rm100 kpd murid sekolah pun saya tak ambil..kalau berasa tertindas d negara sendiri..kita bebas utk berhijrah ke negara yg ada polisi lebih baik. Org melayu pun ramai yg berbuat spt itu..trmasuk adik saya sendiri. Setiap negara ada dasar masing2 bergantung kpd kerajaannya.

Anonymous said...

No mention on the Babas/Nonyas, who were chinese descendants who came more than 500 years ago. I myself, a baba, have a documented family history right up from the first chinaman who came in the 1700s, before he married a local. I know of peranakan's who have a documented existence since the 1500s, tracing every male issue since the first chinaman.

Anonymous said...

I am an Indian and have a couple of Indian Malaysian friends, some of them 3rd or 4th generation in Malaysia. I remember one of my friend expressing his worry about not getting equal opportunities in Malaysia in spite of good, professional education (Medicine degree) he got from India, thanks but no thanks to the "Bhumiputhra" concept. I did not pay much attention to that then (it was about 40 years back) but now, after reading the main article and subsequent discussions, I understood the problems to some extent.
So,what with my limited knowledge and comprehension I think I can venture some opinions of mine - no offence meant to any one. The so-called original Malays, even to this day, are just satisfied being pampered and sit idle and not bothered to try hard and come up in life - he can come up even without that hard work, thanks to the present day politicians and politics. As they say, ignorance is bliss; if you don't know, you are happy, not bothered till the problems land on the head sooner or later.
Without proper English and international exposure, it would be very difficult to stand up in the present day competition. The 'native' malays are not worried. It would be left to those who came there for a living (immigrants) to struggle and come up. And they know the value of hard work and focus on the better achievements of life. Their children also usually follow the parents path to come up. Once these people are seen having better life, then the others/natives start pulling them down, if possible, by using political power. These 'natives' don't understand that the interests and lockers/bank accounts of these bigwigs are full just because of the people's ignorance. How? Because of the ignorance and religious pressures, they never ask questions and are happy with those small dog biscuits thrown by those in power. No questions asked, no fears; they can do as they please.
In fact, this is the same story any of the 'Old City Population' is facing, including my own, in South India. In the name of religion, they won't limit the size of their family; bring them in to this world, at about 10 years of age, put one in a cycle repair shop; one in a motor garage, another in a grocery shop, one in the bus stand, another in a "Pan Shop", one more in a hotel as a cleaner another a pick-pocket or criminal later on, another in a club as a boy etc, etc. Not bothered about good education and studies; take some money or get brainwashed by the religious heads and vote enmasse in the name of religion and sect, electing the same wolves and cunning fellows. And these so-called leaders are happy, because they are not asked any questions and can get away with whatever thy do. HOW CAN THEY EXPECT TO PROSPER?
But at least now, at my place, the trend is showing signs of improvement. One started understanding the value of hard work, education, exposure to competition etc.,
I hope it would be the same with the "Malaysians" there. (I am using the word "Malaysians" here deliberately. It indicates the spirit of one-ness, unity and fraternity and friendship including ALL - the Chinese, Indians - every one.) May you all prosper by the grace of God.

Anonymous said...

Some of those history were taught during my school time, mentioning how malay is actually a mix of multiple races from india, chinese, riau, bugis and natives; and how malay language is mix of sanskrit, chinese and arab words. At that time there wasn't many english words in malay dictionary yet. Today school history is total manipulated; every links to chinese and indian are removed; and added bullshit that UMNO founded malaysia.

Anonymous said...

I wonder no one query about who are we? Where we came from and what is the purpose we all here on EARTH, what we know is to fight for who is who occupy which land, peoples on EARTH, wake up.....be HUMAN, we are the most highest creation of GOD, please do not allows politicians to divide us from each other. We are not only an individual, we are peoples on EARTH, be together help each other, be human, throw all the DEVIL values and embrace the HUMAN values in us, we will have a beautiful and harmonious WORLD to live in.

Mookie said...

When you go to a foreign country, people will often ask you "what's your nationality?" and NOT "what race are you?".
Because, in the end you are the people of YOUR country, We must stand proud and say we are MALAYSIAN.
Please, abolish racism. Just stop thinking about it, stop talking about it, stop wasting time on it.
No matter what color we are outside, everybody bleeds the same. Everybody feels the pain.
So why continue hurting each other?

Anonymous said...

hang li po is Ming Emperor's concubine
after married to Melaka Sultan became a "princess"

Anonymous said...

What about "Tanah Merah? Red Earth Kingdom"?

Anonymous said...

Damn... this is so entertaining. You mean you base your facts from wikipedia??? Did you know that I put those horse shit that you just mentioned in wikipedia?? Get your facts from the correct source, NOT wikipedia... Nowadays its no longer important where the source come from right? Everyone only tells you what you want to hear and believe.

Anonymous said...

surprise with all the comments here. Some are logic but some are absurd. Well..... I like the Statement "Throw all the devil values and Embrace Human values in Us" Malaysia was in Harmony until some politician poison people's thinking for their own benefit...... Some of you still remember the campaign "SETIA" That was the beginning. Well to comment about this you should have lived through that ERA, not by reading books that are manipulated. I mean no harm to anyone. God bless us MALAYSIAN!

Jees said...

I am ok with with fellow Malaysia i.e. Chinese, Indian, Iban, Kadazan and those mix-parentage between those races I've mentioned. But I really don't like those immigrant (pendatang) Indonesian, Bangladeshi, Nepalese, Nigerian & so on..I hope they leave once they got the job done!

Anonymous said...

the article was good, how i wish this is in the history and highlight and bold and capitals the word the original race in Malaysia is the orang asli and not the always claimed that Malaysia belong to the Malay and we Chinese and Indian have to get back to our own place..then i'm a Sarawakian should go back to Sarawak and stop the petroleum production to the Peninsular part as well since the petroleum is in the land of Sarawak and Sarawak belong to the orang asli which still remain that way until now..? make sense right? since everyone keep being "pushed" back by those racist, think back again how the history go? i hear stories that Queen Elizabeth still have right over Malaysia, and with the religion being taken as an issue as well, I have a feeling we all are going "darurat" soon when the Queen says it..so stop all this stupid nonsense and be more human rather than some stereotype against everything and everyone!

Anonymous said...

The malays are useless. They enjoy all the perks and benefits that the government provides but still fail to be successful in economic activities and other tasks. We should not waste our tax payers' money in helping them any longer.

Anonymous said...

The term tanah melayu, ketuanan melayu and so fort were created by you malay people. Nobody actually acknowledges that except your pathetic race that self-proclaimed to be the rightful owner of this lovely land.

Fzl Nfs said...

First I am a Malay, and I agree that all of us except the Orang Aslis are pendatangs. Second I must stress that 19th century Malays refusing to do 'menial' work should not be branded as lazy, in fact it's the other way around that they have enough skills and competences in many areas which would make working in tin mines etc unnecessary. To understand this, please read Al-Atas' Myth of The Lazy Native, maybe the best history book covering the times leading to modern Malaysia, MOE should make this required reading at schools. (http://www.citizens-international.org/ci2012/http://www.citizens-international.org/ci2012/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/the-myth-of-lazy-native.pdf)

New Malays however, who refuse to open up their universities, who keep dumbing down their school system, who are too cowardly to compete on merit and are always reliant on govt help, are actually lazy.

What a shame.

Anonymous said...

if the name Malaysia means the land belong to Malay, as the word Malay is in the name, then Kuala Lumpur belong to the Mud people? Pulau Pinang belong to a tree? nice reasoning just based on a name..

Anonymous said...

Get the facts right infront of your nose....security guards everywhere, even right now, bangsa apa kebanyakkan yg bekerja jd security guards? Bangla lah, Gurkalah, Indonlah, Melayu ada ka? Kalu ada yg dapat kerja banyak tak tahan 2-3 minggu blah berhenti. salah sapa, sendiri Melayu memang kompom malas.

Anonymous said...

Reading all the comments written by everyone. Forget about race and religion the country was built up by ALL RACES and just not ONE RACE. The country have progress due to all the hard work of all our ANCESTORS. The way I look at it, UMNO are causing disharmony among the citizens. This will take the country backwards and divide the citizens.. Please ALL MALAYSIANS unite and fight the RUBBISH UMNO and his CRONIES dish out from thin air. What they are trying to do is to divide the citizens so that they can rule. Knowingly the people are not ignorant anymore, so they keep spinning all the RUBBISH. AS the saying goes " UNITED WE STAND' DIVIDED WE FALL" Please DO NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.

Anonymous said...

Just one more important piece of information is missing, Pete. Apart from the royalty including yourself and the Bugis who are capable of killing and plundering, you didn't mention anything about how the the 3rd group of Pendatangs, the Malays came into this country and how they came to be the largest population despite the fact they seem to have much later than the Arabs, Indians and the Chinese.

Anonymous said...

The backward Malays who rely on "KOPI -O" for easy living without any hustle. Koyang Kaki because the so proclaimed bumiputera is entitled to. Let these so claimed bumiputera to thrive on and to fall death as when they live

Anonymous said...

Shame one you! At least you admit that you put shit in Wikipedia..No wonder. Only one with full of shit can put shit in wikipedia..Not others... thanks you for admitting...

Anonymous said...

Shit pun shit...

Anonymous said...

Malaysia for malay...China for chinese...India for indian..indiana jonos for??

Anonymous said...

I think the term racist is being overly used today. The accurate term should probably be "stereotypist". People are getting lazier in critical thinking and choses the easy way out by associating a certain race/group to a certain characteristic. I'm sure there are plenty chinese, indian, lain-lain that are also lazy. How else are there so many peroduas out there :P

Anonymous said...

You are very correct..I agree with you.Only the 'orang asli' are the true natives of this country,others are all 'pentatang'.....

for the love of the nation said...

Dear Anonymous may13/ 9:58am ... dont be such a jerk ...there is no tomorrow if not today ..and there is no today , without the past ..
so get real ...and acknowledge the past , if you want a BRIGHTER FUTURE .
What need to be changed is the Malay Agama school going kids , whom are being thought the wrong things , if you take into consideration that only after the early 80's is where all this racist issue started popping up ... with the upcoming of agama school and also after the politicians.... Mamak Kutty ... started to change / hide / history from the younger generation.
Even now you have teachers in primary schools ... making unwanted remarks of we Chinese and Indians ...like Keling balik India ... well not knowing that Keling is derived from the word KALLINGA .. which was a part of INDIAN EM PAYER starching from India / Siam and Malaya ... more than 2000 years ago ....so now ...WHO IS THE REAL NATIVE ???
Yes .. from an remark above ... 68% of the words used in Bahasa Melayu is from Tamil & Sanskrit . ..Thanks ,Just wish we can put our differences aside , which is not much at all, except our attitude and live together as one .

locomotion said...

These are valid and invalid points I am sure , from among all that anyone tries her/his best to put to me, the reader.
There is nothing in my life experience teaching me that race issues and their arguments are taken up and swallowed for useful digestion.
I lived in Malaya, then went on to breathe more of the same air when it becomes Malaysia, with Sikhs, Malays, Portuguese, Indians, and Chinese( I am one) growing into herds of one colour pretending to be brotherly-sisterly to other herds.
It makes me mad at politics of the 50 years influencing and altering my taste for culture, and I don't want to live alone happy for my protected mind not yours.
Then I didn't care what animal you are.
I get no more daily influence from what distortions in papers, what those lack-of-attention politicians have to say.
I hate no more.
I love more.
When politicians dose you with fire for your ears and pricks your heart, you are possessed.You go talking endlessly
to score points.
You who are Chinese, Indian and Malay: can't you see goodness in us all? You are sincere when you wish me well
tho' we have never met before. I am your help in the middle of your unfortunate car mishap. You are my sister, you are my brother.
Look at the tired-monotonous faces of politics with a corner of your eye, don't be interested in the devils' speeches.
But pity his soul so very empty; it's full of air, but leave him to discover love. We have love, yes! we love you no matter, and
you love me, come 14th GE or any other number.
Our faith in love for you and you and you takes us to our ends, let politicians who befriends devils bring hantu to themselves.

I will love you no matter the storm of the national agenda. I care if you reciprocate. I care if you influence others similarly.
We find love in us what politicians call nation-building by mistake.
And what politicians call patriotic of us, we say, " Lay off! Go get a life".


Anonymous said...

Malays took this Land from the "Asli's" & establish the Goverment, so they are the Sole Owner & Rulers, cant deny their Right, bla bla bla... N others are pendatang. Israel took the land from Palestine, did almost the same thing & they are not recognized & cursed by Allah it seems, Zionist, Terrorist & bla bla bla... Hypocrite bastards... Look yourself in the mirror & spit... Sorry to say, but the TRUTH HURTS!!!! Always expecting for free lunch... U say about rezeki tak HALAL... If u got stuffs easier that others, so biased, Now that alredi HALAL???? Funny Race...

kokila ramiah said...

Sorry to burst ur bubble, why was Malaya or Tanah Melayu changed into Malay-sia? Before change every1 knew where every1 stood, but after Change Malay-sia-sia sahajalah.....or on positive note malay-sia stands for MalaySinoIndianAborigines??? Next time post using name lab instead hiding behind anonymouse ;)

Anonymous said...

Actually all races in Malaysia are a bunch of racist people just that none would want to accept it...the Malays bitch about the non malays, the chinese bitch about the Indians and Malays, and the idians bitch about both Malays and Chinese...pity the origins voice is not heard when they are bitchin about the immigrants...well not all coz from a group of my buddies I could exclude a few of them who also belong to all the various races...

Anonymous said...

So it has showed that the Malays are lazy since the early days before Malaysia was formed. They don't want to work in mines and plantations. Just wanted freebies without working hard... just like what is happening in today's Malaysia. So they twisted the history to suit their agenda to continnue with the lazy lifestyle, by creating the racial hatred against the Indians and Chinese. So when the Malays now wanted to call the Chinese or the Indians to "balik China or India" better think twice, they can also asked you guys to return to whereever shit hole you came from.

Anonymous said...

I don't know whether I missed anything about the " we have what we need and not greedy and not being lazy Cuz have more work on own land"

Don't get me wrong here fellow Malays
If at the moment it was said all was enough Cuz owning land cow n buffaloes, in my method of thinking can the county called Malaysia be what it is now if not from the hard dedication of Indian & Chinese fellow Malaysian... Kill corruption be fair to all..then u say Malaysia boleh ...!!!

Anonymous said...

So Yap Aloy opened up prostitution.. so the "Ketinggalan Malays" so to speak.. left out on this prostitution business...

I really like how this article tries to justify prostitution and illegal business..

1)From what i can understand from here.. the Malay government actually gave opportunity to the Chinese to do what ever they want,freedom to conduct their business which ever.. which part of this article actually mention Malays are evil.. the Chinese have been given great freedom by the Malays to even conduct their own shady business... despite talking about how bad it is to work in the Tin mines.. not to complain about work, but the profit yield by the Tin mine way exceed the burdens.. and yet there mines were worked on by Ceylonese perhaps? and then later recall the British also took over the Tin mining industry..

2)They say tin mining existed way before.. well thats fine.. but during the 1800 migration of chinese and indians.. why suddenly there is a colonization of immigrants in this country? If they want to work in this country.. they have the permit.. but that doesnt grant them citizenship instantly.. does America give citizenship to Mexicans based on work permit?

3) Islam was brought by the Chinese and Indians.. that is true.. but the Sultan initiated conversion of Islam from the Arabs... and to say Chinese and Indians.. also brought their own religion too.. so whats is the problem with religion here? Is this article trying to say that Islam is a bad thing... because you cant sleep with prostitutes, and exploit ppl in illegal business and service foreigners?

Seems to me this article can clearly describe the situation of Malaysia today.. the shady business of prostutition,drugs and piracy... can all be linked to the culture of the Chinese living off on foreign land..

The more i try to decipher this article.. the more i feel there are a lot of loopholes in this whole poorly written English and nonacademic in its historian presentation..

Alvin Foo said...

This should had been documented clearly in our history book. If the right information had been disseminated to all of us, we would had learned to live in harmony regardless of religion and race. Thank you Sir as always for the fair and right presentation.

Anonymous said...

How about chola king in lembah bujang kedah

Anonymous said...

Dear Ms Nages Sieslack. I am a Malay. I live in German for 37 years, worked, paid taxes, etc2x, mixed with all kinds of Germans. Among friends, they don't show how bias they are towards a foreigner, but when it comes to climbing the ladder, they push you behind. No matter what, you are still a foreigner in their country & they come first in the line. If you don't believe me, go the X-DDR.. You will see how they treat you & how they love dark skin foreigners!

Anonymous said...

Next, the Rohingyas, the Pinoys from Southern Philippines, the Bangladeshis, the Pakistanis and the Indonesians,

Cobra Nair said...

As what RPK wrote, we can see , even from those days ,malays dont want 2 work in Tin Mining areas, rubber estate or even in railways, in short ,they were lazy since those days itself, & till today, they are d same, they have not changed at all, & they try to live on d fruits of others with d Ali Baba trade style. Does Islam allow this ?

salina said...

Enjoyed the history of Malaya and the rubber trees ,coca n tea from Brazil to London to Ceylon to back to Malaya .
Much better than some history n historians as a history subject in schools .!

salina said...

Enjoyed the history of Malaya and the rubber trees ,coca n tea from Brazil to London to Ceylon to back to Malaya .
Much better than some history n historians as a history subject in schools .!

Anonymous said...

anak murid prof khoo kay kim: you are still a kind of moron with a kampung kind of mindset that act like a barbarian. luckily there are still Malays who are advance and have a broader thinking that will brighten up Malaysia. if everyone thinks like you, Malaysia will not be like what it is today. please get out from your estate to learn more.

Anonymous said...

As mentioned by RPK, malay refused to work as miners, planters n railways builders could be they are lazy and their brains are only good for plundering others wealth, hence descendent of pirates.

And the traits and genes being passed down till today. Facts, today malay only know how to survive on government subsidy, aids and other so called "bumiputra" privileges that they hijacked and plundered from the original natives of malaysia. In addition, the malay have added in a new form of plundering they called "derma" (donation).

Malay are so lazy to the point, government needs to lower all grades and points in order for them to pass examinations and be absorbed into government services. Private sector has no choice but to employ them because of bumiputra quotas.

In a nutshell not only malay are lazy but maybe their brains are not as superior compare to other races.

Lastly it is good to know that there are someone who dares to remind malay they are actually a bangsat race

JackGav said...

Thx

pri said...

everyone has their strengths and weekness! most of the races in malaysia are working together no matter what their background is. only politicians need to split the votes so they split the races! all races have noble hearts! i have experienced this to my shame. i was prejudiced once. but not anymore! we are helping each other without knowing it! never let the politicians fool us anymore! only our own race will fool us!

Anonymous said...

The British needed workers because they did not want the Malays involved because they believed that if they developed they would one day kick them out. They use migrant workers so that they could kick them out when it suited them. The Chinese and Indians because of their success from hard work became too powerful for the British to move those who had put down roots in the country. Keep in mind that it was the British plan not to grant the Chinese and Indians citizenship when they decided to grant Malaya independence. They conceded on this because Chin Peng was causing so much problem for them and they needed to split the Chinese from supporting him. You could say the Chin Peng so much reviled by many was the man who won the non-Malays citizenship rights. The British were cunning - they felt that if the Malays were in control, their interest would be better protected. By the way I an neither Chinese or Indian.

Danesh said...

Thanks for the history lesson :)

Unknown said...

I'm an orang asli...you bitches can fuck off from my land.

Unknown said...

I'm an orang asli...you bitches can fuck off from my land.

Unknown said...

Dear RPK,

Good research on the background of Malaya and the migration of Chinese and Indians here. You have failed to highlight the fact that King Rajendra Chola was here in Kedah over 1000 years ago. The name Malaya which in Tamil is Malaiyur was given by this empire that ruled this region including Indonesia and Thailand. The name on one of the street in the KL business district Raja Chulan is the father of Rajendra Chola whose name is Raja Raja Cholan. There are temples ruins in Jeniang Kedah which proves the timeline in which this took place till today.

the reality said...

History or whatever crap it is. Racist or whatever sort of selfishness; it is matter of power only. Whoever holds the power is the winner. Stop complaining and work it out whoever it is.

Malaysian said...

We must go forward not regress, remember the 2 other SS also formed Malaysia, forget about Tanah Melayu, its history.

Malaysian said...

Islam is not compulsion as written in the Quran, thus one is free to choose.

Malaysian said...

Islam is not compulsion as written in the Quran, thus one is free to choose.

Malaysian said...

We must go forward not regress, remember the 2 other SS also formed Malaysia, forget about Tanah Melayu, its history.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for bringing up the Portuguese. I am descended from them. So sad to hear all these comments. I live in the states and grew up in Brunei and Singapore as a child. Malaysia has a rich, beautiful, multi cultural heritage. Politicians can say whatever they want to get votes. History can be easily manipulated in the books. Look around at the buildings, your food, traditional clothing and language. Even English is spoken with some Chinese and Indian and Malay words thrown in. Malaysia, just like US is a product of many cultures. Resulting in something truly unique and amazing. Please don't let politicians with their own agendas let you believe anything less.

Anonymous said...

It's all about Divide and Rule everyone.
And there is only those Royals at the top who are laughing while everyone is fighting each other.
At the moment, right-wing (racist) propaganda is rife in Europe and the US and is propagated by the media and groups supplying leaflets stirring up hatred. Someone is paying for all of this and if there is anything to learn from this history lesson is that those at the top in 1745 are still at the top now.

“Divide and rule, the politician cries;
Unite and lead, is watchword of the wise.”
― Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, Gedichte (1749-1832)

Peace to all Malaysians, Chinese, Indians, all of you.

Unknown said...

I am so speechless. RPK is being professional to admit things.
Tetapi demi "maruah" melayu (dan bukan warga Malaysia), seorang boleh rendahkan dirinya sehingga lupa asal usulnya.
Malu.
Kita, bangsa MALAYSIA seharusnya sama hati, fikiran, majukan tanahair dan bukan cucuk sesama diri.
Long live democracy, long live Malaysia

Unknown said...

I am so speechless. RPK is being professional to admit things.
Tetapi demi "maruah" melayu (dan bukan warga Malaysia), seorang boleh rendahkan dirinya sehingga lupa asal usulnya.
Malu.
Kita, bangsa MALAYSIA seharusnya sama hati, fikiran, majukan tanahair dan bukan cucuk sesama diri.
Long live democracy, long live Malaysia

Unknown said...

This is the history I learned in school, do our kids learn this in school now day? Does the younger Malaysian learn this truth?

Anonymous said...

I guess until today many people don't realize that history is for us to learn from and not only "acknowledge it happen". All this war against supremecy and power. Using the weak minded to rule the entire humanity. And still people don't get it. They are still willing become the slave to those who is evil and still it happens until today.

Ramesh said...
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Ramesh said...

This is a great explanation.

I should add more: Doesn't it strike people as strange that India has tens if not hundreds of different races, yet most of the people in Malaysia are predominantly from Tamil Nadu?

This is due to the following: In the 1870s, there was a massive famine in South India centred around Tamil Nadu. The estimated mortality from this famine was around 5.5 million. As a result of this famine, huge amounts of agricultural workers left India for countries around the world including Malaysia.

More info can be found on the Wiki page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_of_1876%E2%80%9378

Anonymous said...

Dear RPK, what ur research based on? Any evidence on the story or just heard from somewhere else. What ever it is only god knows. We don't know 100% coz no one was born at that time. And 1 more thing, u know what mualaf means? The one u describe is wrong or not correct.

Anonymous said...

Chinese and Indians were brought to Malaya during the British colonial era simply because the native Malays were lazy. The Malays failed to take advantage of all opportunities available at that time to become progressive and successful.Look around us today and see who owns big businesses, commerce and industries in Malaysia. Wake up Malays. The Malay Dilemmma by YB Tun relentlessly criticizes the Malays for thèir lackadaisical attitude.

Anonymous said...

Without the Chinese and Indians, Malaysia is nothing and the Malays will eat sand everyday.

Busted said...

You asses should stop this bitching like a bitch and start showing the next generation and apply how to respect each and lead by example, I don't know how to be a Malaysian by reading your comments it sound like babarians, show me how too rather than bitching (tin losing) about you came first I came first the truth is you are all bunch of same lazy Hippocrates and selfish as it comes God bless my land and change this bitches I'm am a Malaysian India by the constitution I'm a Malaysian an not an Indian by birth ps.. you all are racist no doubt about that

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Anonymous said...

Alah pls give Malays brain to understand. Some of the smart Malays with brain know the truth but they choose to keep quiet because they want to continue enjoy the bumiputra privileges by taking free ride of other people's hard work.

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